. >> but i talked to a congresswoman in colorado, the morning after and she as a strong obama supporter was really disappointed that he had not raised women's issues in that debate. to say what you pointed out earlier, mika, he did not project the kind of likability to any of the audience, including women, of course. so she was disappointed. i asked what she thought had happened and she said, well, i don't know, he didn't ask me for advice. so a lot of his supporters, including strong women, members of congress were not at all happy about not going after what they perceived to be mitt romney's vulnerabilities. >> right. >> and it seems as though the trend is going in mitt romney's direction as joe just said. and how ironic is it that the only way to break that momentum right now, the fastest way would be a strong debate performance by someone, joe biden. >> joe biden from time to time has been pushed to the sidelines by the white house staff, the president respects joe biden, but the president's staff does not. they can deny it, they can push back all they want, it's the reality. and ho